“Different Brains, Shared Vision: Joy, Movement & Business with Lucy Egan”

🌈 About This Season:

This series is all about changing the outdated, unhelpful narrative that being neurodivergent is a problem. We’re speaking with people in Sussex who are neurodivergent — and those who live or work alongside them — to show that difference is not deficiency. It’s diversity. And it’s powerful.

🧠 Episode Summary:

In this feel-good, thought-provoking episode, we chat with Lucy Egan — Zumba teacher, Hyrox world silver medallist, mum of three, and co-director of Hove Fitness Club.

Lucy might not identify as neurodivergent, but her story — and the way she works with her team — is a brilliant example of what can happen when different brains collaborate without competition. Her two fellow directors have what some might call “ADHD-style” creativity — bursting with vision, energy, and ideas. Lucy brings structure, consistency, and follow-through. Together, they’ve built something truly impactful.

We explore what it’s like to be the one who gets things done in a world of big ideas — and how all brains, all ways of being, bring something essential to the table.

🔥 In this episode, we talk about:

• What makes a dream team (and why it's not about being the same)
• How Lucy balances her superstructured, high-energy mind with others’ more spontaneous brains
• The power of movement for emotional wellbeing (for any nervous system)
• Why collaboration between different brain types is the secret sauce in business
• What joy, rhythm, and consistency can teach us about happiness

💥 Why this episode matters:

Neurodiversity isn’t a problem to be fixed — and neurotypical brains aren’t the gold standard. Every way of thinking brings gifts. This episode shows what’s possible when we stop judging difference and start valuing collaboration.

🎧 Listen if:

• You’ve ever felt “too chaotic” or “too controlling” in work relationships
• You want to better understand the unspoken strengths in your team or family
• You’re a neurodivergent person navigating work with neurotypical folks — or vice versa
• You just want to hear a joyful, grounded story about collaboration and movement

📣 Guest Links: Lucy Egan

• Hove Fitness Club

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Transcript

[00:03] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to the new Neuroppy podcast. Daisy and I are so excited this season to be interviewing people in our area, which is Sussex.

[00:11] Now, we are interviewing exciting,

[00:14] lovely people that might have businesses or an exciting story. So we're really hoping to expand the narrative,

[00:20] get different people's perspectives that are neurodiverse, but also that are neurotypical, that may live, have family members that are neurodiverse or. Or work, have businesses with people that are neurodiverse.

[00:33] So we're really hoping that you enjoy this season.

[00:37] You are so welcome.

[00:49] Hello, and welcome back to the Neuro Happy Podcast, where we explore the many messy, magical, wildly human ways we can feel more alive,

[00:58] more ourselves, and more at peace in this busy world.

[01:01] Today we've got a guest who quite literally moves people,

[01:05] and her name is Lucy Egan. She's a director at HO Fitness Club, a powerhouse Zumba teacher, and recently came second in the Hyrox World Championship with her partner in Chicago.

[01:17] Oh, and she's also a mum of three and married to a Scouser.

[01:21] Whether or not Lucy identifies as neurodivergent, which she does. Does not,

[01:27] we knew we wanted her on because she radiates something we all need more of. Joy in the body, presence in movement and community energy. And I, for one, absolutely have loved coming to her classes.

[01:39] She's really, really helped me in kind of regulating my nervous system,

[01:44] creating loads of joy and just kind of freeing me from, you know, periods of overwhelm or when I feel really stressed. So welcome, Lucy.

[01:52] Speaker B: Thank you very much.

[01:53] Speaker C: Welcome. Thank you.

[01:54] Speaker B: Thanks for having me.

[01:55] Speaker A: Yeah, and just tell us a little bit about your gym and how,

[02:00] you know, exercise and how that kind of helps people,

[02:05] you know, anyway. But also people that are neurodiverse, potentially, or adhd.

[02:10] Speaker B: Well,

[02:11] well, obviously we've been open in that new site only 18 months, but we've been, all of us, as the three directors, have been in business for a long time.

[02:20] And I think, you know, seeing people join who may be nervous or a lot of people say, I have gym anxiety. That is a key word that people say, I have gym anxiety.

[02:31] But when you dig a little bit deeper, usually people say, oh, well, you know, like, you say, I feel overwhelmed, or,

[02:37] you know, I don't. I don't. I can't get myself to the door. There's little things that you can really help people get into their world. And. And I said to you before, you never really know what's going on in people's heads.

[02:50] Speaker A: Yeah.

[02:51] Speaker B: And then as you slowly get to we try and really try and get to know our members and really try and help them on that journey, whether they are neurodiverse or not.

[03:01] I think the gym.

[03:03] Not just the gym, the classes, everything else helps that structure and give people a purpose. So you're coming to a class at 6.

[03:11] Where am I going? I've got to be there at 6. Yeah, great. You're there, you know, you're there, you're doing it. And you, as my sign says, as you walk out, you'll never regret a workout.

[03:20] Speaker C: That's very true.

[03:21] Speaker B: Okay. Nobody walks out, goes, oh, I do. I wish I hadn't done that.

[03:24] Speaker C: Yeah.

[03:24] Speaker B: So, you know, every time you go in any exercise, I'm talking going for a walk. I'm not talking about going in and pumping 45 minutes of iron. I'm talking like sometimes just getting out and that fresh air or even like you live really close to the gym.

[03:37] Walking to the gym.

[03:39] Yeah, Cycling to the gym. That moment where you think, oh, yeah.

[03:42] Speaker C: I'm outside and having that routine. Because I wanted to ask you about it sounds like you are the one of the three of you with your two directors who brings that structure.

[03:51] Speaker B: Yeah.

[03:51] Speaker C: So you were talking to us before we started recording about how to. The two directors who you work with are both neurodiverse.

[03:58] Speaker B: They are.

[03:58] Speaker C: They're both not necessarily diagnosed, but have adhd.

[04:01] Speaker B: Yeah.

[04:02] Speaker C: But this triumvirate sounds like it works really well together.

[04:05] So as two neurodivergent people, Katie and I sitting here,

[04:09] it's really interesting to us to know what it's like on the other side of the fence. So if you are neurotypical or certainly not adhd, what's it like to work with people who have adhd?

[04:20] What are the advantages and what do they bring that you don't have and what do they need that you have?

[04:25] Speaker B: Well, I would say definitely one of my directors is very creative.

[04:31] He is great at bringing ideas and then he hands them to me and I put the jigsaw puzzle the last bits together and bring them over the line.

[04:40] Things that I just don't have time to think about because I'm in my business. I'm on the scheduling, I'm on the administration, on the boring stuff,

[04:49] but a necessity that needs to be done. And he'll go off and go, oh, what about this for a class? Oh, I've had this idea.

[04:56] What about if we do this? Can we. We're just about to have a new booking system and he rang me at 5:40 this morning because we do that. And said, what about this?

[05:06] And I'm like, oh yeah, that's a good idea.

[05:09] Let me work on that. And then I'll take it and hopefully build on it or sometimes equally I'll be like,

[05:15] absolutely not that that's not going to work.

[05:17] Speaker C: Yeah.

[05:17] Speaker B: You know, it's too, it's good. But that's not going to schedule.

[05:22] Speaker C: So there's an honesty there.

[05:23] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely.

[05:24] Speaker C: You know that he's bringing this creative energy and these great ideas and then you can have this honest conversation about.

[05:29] Speaker A: What'S going to work.

[05:30] Speaker C: And, and yeah. And actually the structuring and that kind of scheduling for him is probably.

[05:34] Speaker A: He can't do it so well also.

[05:36] Speaker C: He probably doesn't want to.

[05:37] Speaker B: No, no.

[05:38] Speaker C: And that I think is key because.

[05:40] Speaker A: Yeah, we've got an interest based nervous system.

[05:42] Speaker C: Yeah.

[05:42] Speaker A: You know, so anything that we really, really take hold of and take to our hearts we just like get right, really stuck in and you can't get us away from it.

[05:50] Speaker B: Yeah.

[05:50] Speaker A: And you described that earlier. You know, when you've got an idea, you can really, really follow it through.

[05:54] Speaker B: Yeah.

[05:55] Speaker A: But anything that it just doesn't interest us.

[05:58] Speaker B: It's like a scone.

[06:00] Speaker C: But that's why it works, isn't it? Yes, yes. I would like to find someone who could do the, the scheduling for me.

[06:06] Speaker B: Yes, I know. Yeah.

[06:07] Speaker C: And then your other director who you were talking about how his strength is, is somehow kind of analyzing things that come in and he can hyper focus on stuff. He can really help that overview of the structure.

[06:17] Speaker B: Yeah.

[06:18] Speaker C: And so can you talk a bit more about that?

[06:20] Speaker B: Well, he really brings to the table where I will be busy maybe juggling a lot of different things.

[06:27] Speaker C: Yeah.

[06:27] Speaker B: As we do as women.

[06:28] Speaker C: Yeah.

[06:28] Speaker B: And I'll be like, right, I've got this. And I can actually say to him, go and do this.

[06:34] Speaker A: Yeah.

[06:35] Speaker B: And come back to me and tell me what, what, what am I missed or something.

[06:39] Speaker C: Yeah.

[06:39] Speaker B: He can really like you say dive it and we'll say, yeah, you didn't see that. And I'd be like, oh, no, that's because I'm speed reading it, you know, and I'm trying to juggle another thing and another thing and another thing.

[06:52] So he is brilliant at that.

[06:54] But directed, you know, I was,

[06:57] can you do this?

[06:58] Speaker A: Yes.

[06:59] Speaker B: And he can do it.

[07:00] Speaker A: Yes.

[07:00] Speaker B: However, you know, like I said in a normal. If there's lots of distractions.

[07:05] Speaker A: Yeah.

[07:05] Speaker B: That's not, that's not a good place.

[07:07] Speaker A: Yeah.

[07:07] Speaker B: For both of them. Yeah, both of them. When I work with them. With. If I, I need them to concentrate, I have to lock them in an.

[07:13] Speaker A: Office and we have to be completely brilliant.

[07:16] Speaker B: Not, you know, you can't have that distraction.

[07:18] Speaker A: And I've been specific with. Very specific, very specific with instructions. I cannot follow instructions unless they are absolutely specific.

[07:29] Speaker B: Yeah.

[07:29] Speaker A: And I really struggle with any written instruction because I literally miss out.

[07:36] I miss out words and I find that over and over again and I see that again and again with people, you know,

[07:43] that's why struggle to read kind of emails properly or,

[07:47] you know, just jumping.

[07:48] Speaker B: Yeah.

[07:48] Speaker A: So everybody's different as well.

[07:50] Speaker C: Everybody is. But I love this idea that you can have these different strengths and how everybody needs each other.

[07:55] Speaker B: Yeah.

[07:55] Speaker C: And there's so many great things that people who are neurodivergent bring to the table. But we also know where we need help and when we need Lucy.

[08:05] Speaker B: Yeah.

[08:05] Speaker C: So that is just quite exciting. And I suspect that the, the,

[08:09] the combination of the three of you. Are they front facing as well? Do they. Are they front of house as well?

[08:14] Speaker B: Well,

[08:15] we all are front of house of that business because we, we came from the old gym that used to be at the Coral site and we were very much key figures in that gym from years back.

[08:27] So we, we find that we all customer face great all the time. So people, you know, and some people would just love, you know, for, for Matt, he. That people love him.

[08:38] Yeah. He's like a puppy dog. He's. He,

[08:41] he just. People do anything for him. And I'm like, I wish I had that skill because I would do it myself.

[08:48] As I say to him, you are the master at getting people to do things for you.

[08:54] He is amazing.

[08:55] I don't know. He just can do it. And I'm just like, why am I doing this? Why does somebody not do it for me?

[09:00] Speaker A: Yes.

[09:01] Speaker C: What about race gym that you. Combination of skills and that's sort of feeding through to the people coming through the doors because we need different people to.

[09:09] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely.

[09:10] And I, and, and I just want to say that I just started.

[09:14] I had. This is a very strange,

[09:17] strange event that I kept dreaming about Lucy.

[09:20] I had literally been to her Zumba classes at the old place and I don't. This is like a long time ago, isn't it? And I'm not very good with time.

[09:29] And obviously then Covid hit and I went back because I literally had a dream about her and I just kept thinking, oh my God, I've got to find Zumba again.

[09:38] Zumba is missing from my life. It brings me so Much joy and happiness.

[09:42] And I literally phoned. I tried to phone. I realized that gym was shut. And I phoned up the next gym on my list,

[09:49] and they said, oh, yeah, come in and have a look. And I saw Lucy's face on a.

[09:53] Speaker B: Poster, and I was like, somebody would walk straight back out the door, think, oh, my God, she's there.

[09:58] Speaker A: Lucy's Zumba. Yes, she's here.

[10:01] So, you know, there's that element as well, of just also.

[10:05] You know, our podcast is also about what brings us happiness. You know, how can we be happier?

[10:11] And I am not joking when I say that Zumba is literally the highlight of my week.

[10:17] You know, it is the combination of movement and obviously the right chemicals in my brain creating the dopamine. More dopamine.

[10:25] And just music.

[10:27] Speaker B: Yeah.

[10:28] Speaker C: You know, music.

[10:29] Speaker A: It's like being at a teenage disco.

[10:33] Speaker B: Also, just exercise. Generally, when you're in a class or even if you're not in a class.

[10:38] I was talking to you about why I go for a run every day. Because it's like my time. Yeah. And a lot of the time I'm teaching, which is not.

[10:45] I don't consider it my time because I have to give an element of my energy or, you know, I'm trying to get everybody to go harder or whatever. And so, you know, just for you, coming to that class, it's like you're just.

[10:59] You're in your. It's taking everything away, isn't it? It's like, I'm just doing something new alone. Nobody's on the phone to you. Nobody can contact you for 45 minutes. You're free.

[11:09] Yeah. You know, and, you know, we all live dangerously on our phones,

[11:13] and you just think, I'm just going to put everything down and just have that moment.

[11:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And there is something about structure. I remember I did a.

[11:22] A qualification for ADHD coaching,

[11:25] and the person that was instructor was telling us she had, you know, she really wanted to do exercise, but she couldn't make herself do it.

[11:35] So to add some novelty into the equation.

[11:38] Speaker C: Yeah.

[11:38] Speaker A: She used to go on the bus with her pajamas on, straight out of bed.

[11:43] Speaker B: This is in London. Okay.

[11:45] Speaker A: Get to her gym with her locker.

[11:47] Speaker B: Yeah.

[11:48] Speaker A: So she would do this class.

[11:49] Speaker B: Wow.

[11:50] Speaker A: And that's how she managed to get there. And I thought, wow, that's quite extreme, isn't it? But whatever it takes.

[11:57] Speaker C: What is it, Katie, about Lucy's particular Zumba classes? If you dreamt about it, it must be.

[12:02] It must be a very special class because there are other Zumba instructors in this city.

[12:08] Speaker A: Yeah.

[12:08] Speaker C: So what is it for you about Lucy's way of teaching that really makes you keep going back for more?

[12:13] Speaker A: Well, I've got goosebumps. I just love it because I think Lucy is a natural,

[12:18] kind of exuberant person.

[12:21] I.

[12:22] I feel like I'm like that as well.

[12:25] So the energy is kind of magnified,

[12:28] whereas a lot of teachers just go through the motions and they do whatever they're doing.

[12:33] But I just feel the joy in that.

[12:35] Speaker B: Yeah. But also the joy radiates to me because I also will have people come to my class. And for example, somebody came to my spin class last night and I literally thought she was having the worst time of her life.

[12:49] And I saw her this morning, she went, oh, my God, I love that class.

[12:53] And I was like, oh,

[12:55] well, you did.

[12:56] Speaker C: How funny.

[12:56] Speaker B: But I wouldn't have known it from her face, from her body language. I thought, oh, my God, she hated that. Every minute of that. And she loved it.

[13:05] Speaker C: Yes. When Katie comes to your class, you feel her energy.

[13:09] Speaker B: I feel her energy, yes.

[13:10] Speaker A: Which I think is something.

[13:11] Speaker C: And you were talking about one of your co directors who has this exuberant energy. And that is something about people who are neurodiverse. But we need that structure. We need to be able to go somewhere and to be guided, because doing it on our own, finding that motivation can be quite difficult.

[13:26] Contest.

[13:27] Speaker A: And also there's a lot of people that are neurodiverse that aren't like me, because I've taught. I don't know whether it's natural. It's a bit of both natural and I've taught, been taught to smile.

[13:41] And when we do smile,

[13:42] we do create different chemicals in the body.

[13:45] But a lot of people that are neurodiverse,

[13:48] like my partner, for example,

[13:50] you know, undiagnosed. Undiagnosed him. But he doesn't have any facial expression.

[13:56] Speaker B: Right. Yeah.

[13:56] Speaker A: Very limited.

[13:58] Speaker B: Yeah.

[13:58] Speaker A: So you would think he was having a terrible time.

[14:02] And I've really noticed this with people as well. What we are looking at in their facial expressions does not convert to how they're actually experiencing stuff.

[14:11] So, you know, when I'm in a class and I'm just thinking, when I'm in your class and I'm thinking, oh, why is everyone smiling?

[14:17] I've got to remember.

[14:18] Speaker B: Yeah.

[14:19] Speaker A: That it's irrelevant.

[14:21] Speaker B: It's not natural.

[14:22] Speaker A: You know, for some people.

[14:23] Speaker C: Yes.

[14:23] Speaker B: Yeah.

[14:24] Speaker C: Because we're all different.

[14:25] Speaker A: We're all different.

[14:26] Speaker C: Neurodivergent isn't one great big lump. Yeah. It's like every Single person within these different spectrums.

[14:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.

[14:32] Speaker C: Some tendencies, I'm guessing, with some types of neurodivergence for less facial expression. And on the other hand. Yeah, Some for more.

[14:39] Speaker A: Yeah, me more. Other people less.

[14:41] Speaker C: Yeah.

[14:41] Speaker A: And also I've had to learn that to not take offense or to, To.

[14:46] Speaker B: To. To.

[14:47] Speaker A: To read into that. That there, There's.

[14:51] Speaker B: There's la.

[14:52] Speaker A: There's less facial expression, like you just said.

[14:56] Speaker B: Yeah.

[14:56] Speaker A: You know, so also that's good for us all to remember that we can't take that on face value.

[15:03] Speaker B: You know, often people will say to me, oh my God, thank you. That was amazing. I loved it. But I would not have known.

[15:11] Speaker A: Yes.

[15:12] Speaker B: From just looking at them in the mirror, I'd be thinking,

[15:14] did they like that? Did. I don't know. I'm not really sure. Keep my light A good time.

[15:20] That's all about me.

[15:21] I had a good time. I enjoyed the music and, you know.

[15:25] Speaker A: Yeah.

[15:25] Speaker B: I think you finding somebody who, you know, some people come to my Zoom class and they won't like it because it's quite fast paced,

[15:34] the music is often fairly loud. And I do get some comments that it's maybe a bit loud, but I like,

[15:40] you know, that for me, gives me that boom, you know,

[15:43] pick me up. I'm like, yeah, let's put the music on. Let's get dancing. So, you know, some people like that in his class. He plays lots of 80s boys and all that kind of stuff.

[15:55] And,

[15:56] and.

[15:56] And some people won't like his music or, you know, and some Ben does have teaching classes, but they'll all have elements of people, like a certain instructor and they like them.

[16:08] Speaker A: Whereas you might think, God, they're terrible.

[16:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that's not for me. Yeah, that's not for me.

[16:12] Speaker C: That's why it's so important that we have so many different options.

[16:14] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, absolutely.

[16:16] Speaker A: Can you talk to us a little.

[16:17] Speaker C: Bit about this amazing thing that you've been doing that I don't know anything about?

[16:21] Speaker B: I.

[16:21] Speaker C: But I want to understand that. It sounds incredible.

[16:24] Speaker B: Okay.

[16:25] Speaker C: It sounds like it's what brings you joy.

[16:27] Speaker B: Yeah, Joy and fear.

[16:29] Speaker C: Okay.

[16:29] Speaker B: And,

[16:30] yeah, fear definitely scares me all the time. So it's.

[16:33] It's a competition that runs all year round all over the world,

[16:39] and you run a kilometer,

[16:41] Then you go and do an exercise. So it runs in a specific order.

[16:46] Speaker C: Okay.

[16:46] Speaker B: So you run a kilometer. You then ski on a skier for a thousand meters.

[16:51] So that would be part with me and my partner. We would do a certain percentage each. You don't have to do half, you could do.

[16:58] She could do 40, I could do 60 or whatever.

[17:01] Speaker C: You always do it in pairs or is this.

[17:02] Speaker B: No, you can do as well.

[17:04] Speaker A: Right.

[17:04] Speaker B: So you can do the whole thing yourself as well.

[17:07] So. And then you run again and then you go and do 150 kilo sled push.

[17:13] So in a big sled. And then you run again and you do 100. 100 kilo sled pool. Then you run again and you do 100 meters, burpee broad jump, which is a burpee to the floor and run.

[17:24] Then you run again and then you go and do a row, you run again, you do farmer's carry, which two 24 kilo kettlebells. And then you run again and you do walking lunges with your knee to the floor.

[17:35] And then you run again, you do 100 wobbles.

[17:37] Speaker C: Okay.

[17:38] Speaker A: Oh my God.

[17:41] Speaker C: And that is. Katie says you did rather well in this. You've done other well in this sport.

[17:46] Speaker B: We did rather well. And I must say my partner Catherine is amazing and she is an ex iron woman and she can go to a much higher level of pain than I can.

[17:59] But she.

[18:01] I say pain, it's talking about smiling. We always say when we're working out together, smile, right, because it tricks the brain.

[18:08] You're smiling, you're like,

[18:10] it's okay, we're going to be okay. And actually a lot of my photographs that you get from Hyrox, I do look like I'm smiling, but I'm actually grimacing.

[18:19] But it looks like I'm smiling.

[18:22] I'm like. I don't really think I am.

[18:24] Speaker A: Yeah.

[18:24] Speaker B: But,

[18:25] yeah. So we went to Chicago for the world Champ. So you have to win a place in one of the regionals. So we won London and we won Malaga. So we could have.

[18:34] We had a chance to go twice and we went to Chicago and this is all not funded. We have. You have to self fund.

[18:42] Speaker A: It's not.

[18:43] Speaker B: They don't give you the ticket. So like £200 each to go and do basically an hour and 15 minute competition.

[18:50] Speaker C: And you came second in the world.

[18:52] Speaker A: Second in the world.

[18:53] Speaker C: It's incredible.

[18:54] I'm really interested in the type of person who tends to be drawn to. Is there a, is there a certain type of person that you would say is drawn to this kind of activity?

[19:03] Because it's not something that I think I'm drawn to. So really interested in this.

[19:09] If you can see a similarity between maybe the personalities or broken titles,

[19:13] I think.

[19:15] Speaker B: Do you know what? It has a very broad Spectrum of people that come. You don't have to be like me and super competitive. You can just be. I want to complete it.

[19:25] Unfortunately, I do always do go things and I think I want to win. I don't always win, which is why.

[19:31] Speaker C: You'Re a world champion.

[19:33] Speaker B: But my partner Catherine, she will say to me, we're getting on that podium. And I'm like, oh, I'm not sure about that because I'm looking at everybody else and I'm thinking, I'm not really sure.

[19:41] They all look so good.

[19:44] But it does have a broad spectrum of people. But I think the fact that it's always the same exercises in the same order,

[19:54] even though in our classes, obviously we will do them out of order, but the competition is the same.

[19:59] Okay, so you really know what you're going into.

[20:02] If you practice it, it's. There's no nasty surprise there. Nobody's going to suddenly say,

[20:07] oh, now pick up a 30 kilo sandbag. No, it's very regulated,

[20:12] so you can practice and practice and practice for that competition.

[20:16] Speaker C: But even so, that's what I think is interesting to me because that requires a lot of dedication and repetition, repetition, which actually I would find difficult.

[20:24] So I'm wondering if, you know, there's a particular type of person who can find that dedication.

[20:29] You know, I mean, because even to complete, you said, well, you can just do it to complete. The idea of completing that sends my blood running cold, you know, And I've run a couple of marathons, you know.

[20:41] Speaker B: Well, there you go then. But that's four hours.

[20:43] Speaker C: It's. It's true.

[20:45] Speaker A: I don't know.

[20:46] Speaker B: I don't know.

[20:48] Speaker C: I certainly did not. I did my Last one in 425. So there you go, you know, But I.

[20:54] Speaker A: There's.

[20:55] Speaker C: There's something about the idea of this. This. It sounds hugely dedicated because even in order to lift those things.

[21:01] Speaker B: Yes.

[21:02] Speaker C: To jog around a marathon, you know, you can do it without too much effort. This sounds like even to lift these things, you've got to be dedicated.

[21:09] Where does that come from? And are. Is everybody who goes, do you know, do you talk about this dedication that's needed for God? Yeah, yeah.

[21:16] Speaker B: It's very boring, basically. High Ross people can be very boring. It's because then what they talk about is hugs.

[21:23] Speaker C: Really?

[21:23] Speaker B: Really.

[21:24] Speaker C: What do your co directors think about Hyrule?

[21:26] Speaker B: Well, Matt is involved in Hyrox. So is he. He dragged me into it. He said, I've got a partner for you. She's the same age.

[21:35] This is who you need to meet fabulous. And I met her and as we were doing a little run together and she just goes, oh, yeah, I've done an Iron Woman.

[21:43] And I've done. And I'm like, oh, my God.

[21:47] And I'm like, he's like, see? Set you up with Champion.

[21:50] Speaker A: And see, he knew. He knew intuitively as well what would work for you.

[21:54] Speaker B: What would work for me?

[21:55] Speaker A: Yeah.

[21:55] Speaker B: So he, he, yes, he teamed me up with her and he is always the one that will say to me, you'll love that.

[22:03] Speaker C: Right?

[22:04] Speaker B: You'll love that. Go and do that. And I'd be like,

[22:07] and he's right. Yeah, he's right. Yes. He's always right.

[22:10] Yeah, he's always right.

[22:12] Cross country running, I do a lot of cross country running. I love running hills.

[22:16] So I don't run flat. I won't run the C1.

[22:18] And he was always saying, come and do this cross country run. And I'm like,

[22:22] you'll laugh, it's like, you'll love it. And I was like, oh, yeah, I love it.

[22:25] So, you know, he is good in just taking those.

[22:29] He good at leading people into something.

[22:32] You might be thinking,

[22:34] yeah, so maybe you meet Matt, maybe he'll bring you to Horrocks and you. Wow.

[22:39] Speaker A: And actually I could totally see her winning at it.

[22:43] Speaker B: Exactly.

[22:44] Speaker A: To be fair.

[22:44] Speaker B: Yeah.

[22:45] Speaker A: And what's the psychological component, though? Because partner, Catherine, she got a different psychological kind of bias or wherever.

[22:55] Speaker B: I think that she has just peted. She's a triathlete as well, so she's got a higher level of.

[23:01] Of performance,

[23:02] athlete performance.

[23:04] So, you know, I am a runner, but I've never done anything,

[23:08] you know, like, anything nearly professional. I'm just like, light running, could do a few races,

[23:14] can sometimes come top 10,

[23:16] you know, for a full age and that kind of thing. And female, female male type of thing. So I can do quite well.

[23:24] I'm good at getting into those places. But she's done a lot higher level, you know, she's done like the.

[23:30] What's it called, the Tenerife Iron Woman or something like, it's like basically run up a mountain and then suck up a mountain and swim in the sea 500 ****** miles.

[23:41] I mean, I would, I'd be like, no,

[23:42] absolutely not.

[23:43] Speaker A: But you must also bring something to the table. The same as you do in Zampa.

[23:48] Speaker C: Yeah.

[23:49] Speaker B: Obviously she sees something in me that.

[23:50] Speaker A: She says, yeah, because otherwise she wouldn't.

[23:52] Speaker C: Be with you as a partner.

[23:53] Speaker B: Ain't talking usually, I'm swearing a lot.

[23:57] She always Goes, I know, I know. When he's hurting,

[24:00] dropping a few F bombs. But yeah, yeah. So we just get on really well, you know, so it is finding your person, isn't it? Finding the people.

[24:09] And similarly, you know, like we say that, that diversity that we have of instructors.

[24:14] Speaker C: Yeah.

[24:15] Speaker B: People will always go to some person's class and they'll never come to mind.

[24:19] They'll be like, oh, no, no, no, she's, she's too hard. Or she's, you know. No, no, you can't blame me, Lucy. I mean, I get that people, but I'm not offended by it.

[24:27] Speaker A: I'm like, no.

[24:29] Speaker B: You know, I would say it's gentle encouragement from me, but, you know, sometimes it can be a little bit tougher.

[24:34] Speaker C: And actually when we were talking earlier about the dancing, what I found fascinating because I was saying earlier that, you know, Katie is a, was a professional dancer by trade, but yet you say, you know, like, actually it's really hard for you to follow the steps.

[24:47] And I've always hated any kind of lead dance.

[24:52] Speaker B: Yeah.

[24:52] Speaker C: Probably because I can't do it.

[24:54] Speaker A: Yeah.

[24:54] Speaker C: We tend to like things that we can do,

[24:57] so. And I think that maybe, you know, I can't follow instructions,

[25:00] you know, flat pack furniture or just my brain shuts down.

[25:04] Speaker B: Yes.

[25:04] Speaker C: And I think it's a similar thing. I want to be free.

[25:07] Speaker A: Yes.

[25:08] Speaker B: And.

[25:09] Speaker C: But for you, Katie, you persevered with this to become a professional dancer and now you found Lucy's class and you love that. So it shows that we can do things.

[25:18] Speaker A: Yes.

[25:19] But obviously it's the element that leads me to Lucy's Zumba is that somebody is in front of me and it's simple.

[25:29] Whereas when I was dancing on my own, I had to learn a show in sometimes like.

[25:35] Speaker B: Yeah.

[25:35] Speaker A: A few hours.

[25:36] Speaker B: Yeah. And. Yeah.

[25:37] Speaker A: And then have to suddenly pull it out the bag and perform it. I mean, that is some kind of torturous hell.

[25:42] Speaker B: Yeah.

[25:42] Speaker A: Because I literally have no short term memory. I can't remember things.

[25:46] Speaker C: And that's quite common.

[25:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, God, really common.

[25:49] Speaker B: I mean, I, I do have moments where I'm up at the front of the class and thinking, I've got no idea what I'm doing. No idea.

[25:54] Speaker A: Yeah.

[25:55] Speaker B: I've completely lost it because I will suddenly,

[25:58] I think yesterday I was thinking, oh, I'm fine. To Portugal next Thursday. Oh, I need to. And then I realized I'm thinking, oh my God, wait a minute, I'm in the middle of the class.

[26:07] I actually completely sure you're neuro. Yeah.

[26:12] I was thinking well, I'm always planning ahead.

[26:15] Planning, you know, I'm planning. I'm always thinking, oh yes, I do this and I do that and then. But I have to stay in that focus, especially when the music has to be to time.

[26:25] And yeah, you know, I really am listening. Yeah, I mean definitely. I can go off on a tangent when I'm teaching other classes just because.

[26:32] Speaker A: I'm nosy and I know you're always planning and that's why you said when you go for a run your way to plan, blah, blah, blah. Do you ever, do you ever meditate or can you be in the mo, like whatever that means in the moment.

[26:45] Can you still your brain or is.

[26:48] Speaker B: This when I'm asleep?

[26:49] Speaker A: When you're asleep, yeah. Yeah. So your brain is a fast.

[26:52] Speaker B: Yes.

[26:53] Speaker A: Racing brain.

[26:54] Speaker B: Yes, Fast racing. I'm always thinking.

[26:56] Speaker A: Yeah.

[26:56] Speaker B: But I, I do know, I find it very. I have started to go to yoga,

[27:01] but a vinyasa flow. But even 30 minutes into that, I'm always thinking,

[27:07] when's it finishing?

[27:10] I love it. But I'm always thinking, you know, oh, that's enough. I said to Lucy, the other a yoga instructor the other day and she said, when are you coming?

[27:18] She comes sometimes to my Zumba and,

[27:20] and then she's always like, it's so difficult. And I'm like, well, I find your yoga difficult. So it's like,

[27:25] yeah, it's different levels, isn't it? And she, and I said I really need a 30 minute yoga. And this woman who comes to yoga, she just laughed out loud. She's 30.

[27:34] Maybe there should be. Yeah, yeah, you know, maybe there should be. But some people who just don't want to sit still that long.

[27:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's, that's fair enough. And to be honest, I would never ever have contemplated doing yoga until the last kind of year.

[27:48] And you've, you're starting to do yoga as well, aren't you?

[27:51] Speaker C: I been doing yoga. I mean I'm. I know you're not supposed to say whether or not you're good at it, but it's not, not the philosophical way to approach it. I'm not very good at it, but I love it.

[28:01] I mean, when I say that I struggle with, I've always struggled with flexibility, so I can hardly touch my toes, but I do, I love the mindfulness of it actually.

[28:10] And as a younger child I was madly into ball sports.

[28:13] Speaker B: Yeah.

[28:14] Speaker C: And would daydream. So going back to kind of what you get told as a kid when you've got adhd, you're Lazy or daydream, all the rest of it.

[28:21] And I was bored by the classes and I used to look out the window and just stare at the network and I couldn't ****** wait to get onto it.

[28:27] Speaker B: Yeah.

[28:27] Speaker C: But exercise I think for, for everybody is important,

[28:31] but for the ADHD brain as well. For me I know that actually it's my mental health as much as my physical health that suffers if I don't, if I don't do exercise.

[28:40] To the point where when I had Covid a couple of years ago, my daughter said to me after 10 days of being stuck in the house,

[28:46] you're not a very good sick person, mommy. And I think that's worth acknowledging because for people who may be neurodiverse, that. And we don't need to do hierarchy. Like you said, you've got people coming to your gym.

[28:57] Speaker B: Yeah.

[28:57] Speaker C: It's finding your own way in.

[28:59] Speaker B: Yes.

[29:00] Speaker C: And whether that's the 82 year old lady who said, who comes to your Zumba class, all those much older women who are doing yoga.

[29:05] Speaker B: Yeah.

[29:06] Speaker C: We all need to find our thing, don't we?

[29:09] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.

[29:10] Speaker B: Find yourself, recognize the power of it and you know, the regularity that coming to a class gives you. It's scheduled, it's in your diary. That's why I love a class o' clock.

[29:21] That's where you are going to be.

[29:23] Speaker C: With other people.

[29:24] Speaker B: Yeah, with other people. And you know, you can, you can talk to other people or not talk to other people in that class. You know, there's no, there's no, it's not, nobody asking much of you other than turn up.

[29:35] Speaker C: Yeah.

[29:35] Speaker A: And it's a really good way because it's not relying on your own kind of motivation to go out for a run.

[29:43] Speaker B: Yeah.

[29:44] Speaker A: When you have to book a class and then you have to turn up because you may.

[29:49] Speaker B: Because we find.

[29:50] Speaker A: Because you find you.

[29:50] Speaker B: Yeah.

[29:51] Speaker A: So actually that's good. That's a really, really good way of.

[29:54] Speaker C: Keeping as a consequence as focus. Yes.

[29:57] Speaker A: And I just love that.

[29:58] Speaker B: Yeah.

[29:59] Speaker A: The fact that I know that I'm going. Yeah.

[30:01] Speaker B: You know, I think, I think it is the, you know, just getting into a routine.

[30:06] Speaker C: Yeah.

[30:06] Speaker B: Gives people purpose.

[30:08] And I always say to like my sister, she's just got into the gym, she's never into the gym. And she was saying, oh, I'm going to this, I'm going to that, I'm going to this.

[30:16] And, and I'm like, good, keep it up.

[30:19] Speaker A: Yeah, keep it up.

[30:20] Speaker B: Let's stay on track.

[30:21] Speaker A: Yeah.

[30:21] Speaker B: You know, stay on track.

[30:22] Speaker A: Yeah. For people that do get bored. There's that whole interest because there's so many different things you can do. That's why, you know, that's why I like it.

[30:29] Speaker C: Yeah.

[30:30] Speaker B: You don't have to stay, you know, you don't have to just do hearts. Actually, I say often to people, they're like, oh, I'm. I'm not going to be doing my hardware training.

[30:38] I'm going to just be. I'm doing an ultra or something. And I said to this guy who was going to cancel and I said, well,

[30:44] great at doing an ultra. I said, but you still need to do your weight training. You cannot just do one thing.

[30:51] It's so, you know, if you're cycling, if you're just spinning five times a week,

[30:55] where's your weight training?

[30:58] Where. Where you've got to build other elements into it. The body is not just one dimensional.

[31:04] Speaker A: Yeah.

[31:05] Speaker B: And also when we're talking about yoga, the whole movement, the body doesn't just move forward.

[31:10] Speaker A: Yes.

[31:11] Speaker B: That's a very, very good point. Is. Is.

[31:13] Speaker A: Yeah.

[31:14] Speaker B: Reaching, pulling, pushing.

[31:17] Speaker A: Because we do get stuck into one movement. Like, you were running. I was running and I wasn't really doing much else for a long time.

[31:22] Speaker C: Yeah.

[31:23] Speaker A: And obviously we get. We get stuck in the body in that way. Just doing that repetitive. Yeah, that repetitive movement.

[31:29] Speaker B: Yeah. And then people go on board. I'm not doing it anymore.

[31:32] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely.

[31:34] Speaker A: Yeah.

[31:35] Speaker C: Keeping, not keeping. Novelty is.

[31:37] Speaker A: Yeah.

[31:37] Speaker C: Isn't it?

[31:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Just on a. Just on a. Another nosy tick.

[31:42] Speaker B: Go on. Then what would I just.

[31:45] Speaker A: Because I really like, just interested in finding out people's, like, what would. Like, if you could plan out your perfect day, what do you think that would include?

[31:56] Speaker B: Always a run.

[31:57] Speaker A: Always a run.

[31:59] And if you could kind of go anywhere. So let's just say it's not like a. Just a normal day. You could like fly to Sports Spain or you could go and have a meal somewhere.

[32:07] Speaker B: Yeah.

[32:07] Speaker A: Specific. And you could. I don't know, whatever.

[32:10] Speaker B: Well, I like if I could go and I love to. I love going to South Africa, to Cape Town.

[32:16] And a perfect day would be. This is what I do on holiday.

[32:19] Speaker A: Yeah.

[32:20] Speaker B: Is I get up and I run up.

[32:23] We usually stay in Hout Bay, which is just outside of Cape Town, a little bit up there. And we, we. I run up this hill which is called Chapman's Peak.

[32:32] So it's only. It's 5k up, 5k down,

[32:35] but it is right up, right through this mountain. And then one point, you can't. Only cars are allowed to get to the Top of there,

[32:42] you look out over to the bay. It's amazing.

[32:44] Then you run down like speedy run, you know, maybe. And there's the thing about South Africa is it's. Well, that part's up. Not the whole of South Africa, obviously. That Cape Town area is.

[32:55] Everybody's exercising.

[32:57] My God, it is just full of. There'll be full of runners, walkers,

[33:01] cyclists, everybody's on that route. So I run up top, run back,

[33:05] get back, have breakfast and then. Hold on, What? Go on.

[33:08] Speaker A: Breakfast. What would be your ideal breakfast?

[33:11] Speaker B: Well, it would always be avocado. Avocado and toast.

[33:14] Speaker C: Really?

[33:14] Speaker A: Is that your favorite?

[33:15] Speaker B: I love avocado. I eat it every day.

[33:17] Speaker C: Yeah.

[33:17] Speaker B: Every day.

[33:18] Speaker A: Yeah.

[33:18] Speaker B: I'll never not have an avocado.

[33:20] Speaker C: If you'd said honey, not loops, I would have formed of my children.

[33:24] Speaker B: Or if I said I don't have breakfast.

[33:26] Speaker A: It's.

[33:27] Speaker B: I always have breakfast. I love it. Yeah, it's like my favorite meal of the day.

[33:31] Speaker A: What else do you like for breakfast? Or is it avocado special case.

[33:38] Speaker B: If I have to have a cereal, it'll be Special K. That's from my mum.

[33:41] Speaker A: That's your child?

[33:42] Speaker B: I remember that. My aunt gave me that. I still eat that Special K. And then it's porridge or, you know, I mean, if somebody prepares overnight oats and all that.

[33:51] Speaker A: What about a fryer?

[33:53] Speaker C: Absolutely not. No.

[33:54] Speaker B: I don't like sausages or I don't actually really like any part for fry up.

[33:58] Speaker A: No. Okay.

[33:59] Speaker B: That. So. No. My husband loves it.

[34:02] Speaker A: Does he?

[34:02] Speaker B: I'm always like, don't look at the menu, I know what you're gonna have. And he'll be like, don't look at the menu, I know what you're gonna have. Okay, well, there you go then.

[34:08] Speaker A: Yeah.

[34:09] Speaker B: And then what? And then what would. And then I would.

[34:12] I.

[34:13] On a perfect day, I would then go and ride the horses at Nordhook, which there are. Is an ex race horse.

[34:20] And you go onto this huge 8 kilometer beach and gallop horses along the beach.

[34:26] Speaker A: Oh, wow. That sounds amazing.

[34:29] Speaker B: But I have had an occasion where I couldn't stop. That was a little bit. Another story. But anyway. Another story. But yes. So usually I like. Right. I love riding,

[34:38] growing up riding horses and I love being around horses.

[34:41] Speaker A: Wow.

[34:43] Speaker B: And then. Oh, you'd have lunch and then just chill out.

[34:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Did you chill out?

[34:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I can. Yeah, I can. What's that thing?

[34:53] Speaker A: Read a book.

[34:54] Speaker B: Read a book. Sit. Sit in the sun, you know, just chill out by the pool. Yeah. I can't do all day.

[35:00] Speaker A: Yeah.

[35:00] Speaker B: But if I've had my kind of exercise,

[35:02] active day, I mean often I'll say to ad my husband and my like, right, let's go for a walk or let's, let's go and do something or we hire bikes.

[35:10] We did that straight after the Chicago World Championships. The next day,

[35:14] mind you, I was going,

[35:15] wow,

[35:17] wow.

[35:18] Every bump is like, oh, does that hurt?

[35:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I can relax.

[35:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I can do it. People don't think I can, but I, I can.

[35:26] Speaker A: Yeah.

[35:27] Speaker B: Yeah. I can actually sit down and do. I actually do like being by myself.

[35:31] Speaker A: Yeah.

[35:31] Speaker B: I was just talking to my son about that and I said, he said, or saying to me and I went, I love being by myself.

[35:37] Speaker A: Yeah.

[35:37] Speaker B: And he said, yes, so do I. Yeah. So the other weekend I had nobody at home and my husband said, what did you do? I said, I spoke to nobody.

[35:45] I loved it,

[35:46] I love it.

[35:47] Speaker A: I love that.

[35:48] Speaker B: Nothing.

[35:49] And my, my co partner Catherine said, oh, do you want to come to the gym? I'm going to go and do a class. And I was like. She said, I need to speak to some people, I need to see people.

[35:56] I was like, I don't want to see anybody.

[35:59] So you don't think that about me, but I sometimes just need to.

[36:02] Speaker A: Yeah.

[36:02] Speaker B: Yeah, completely.

[36:03] Speaker A: Me too.

[36:04] Speaker B: Yeah. I like, I like that silence.

[36:06] Speaker C: So you're obviously extremely fit and very active.

[36:09] I'm just wondering what and when. But when people come to your,

[36:13] to your gym, what advice would you give to someone who is possibly, you know, feeling. I think you used the expression gym anxious.

[36:21] Speaker B: Gym anxiety.

[36:22] Speaker C: Gym anxiety.

[36:24] Who hasn't perhaps exercised or maybe someone who hasn't exercised for a long time is out of the habit and they're just feeling like they can't find the motivation or,

[36:32] or they're anxious.

[36:33] Speaker B: Yeah.

[36:34] Speaker C: What kind of a welcome will they get from you and your two wonderful co directors if they come to your Jim and what advice would you give them to try and encourage them to come?

[36:45] What they're going to get from it?

[36:46] Speaker B: Well, actually this is Matt, my co director's idea. So we just launched this, this year and we offer three 30 minute PT sessions.

[36:57] So we will get people in and we will meet them, talk to them about their.

[37:02] In the first 30 minutes we'll be like, right, what are you looking for? What are you trying to do?

[37:06] So, so we'll have like a consultation,

[37:09] maybe show them some of the cardio equipment so they feel comfortable about if they want to go in a running machine or a stair climber and then we will book them in for two subsequent PT sessions after that where we will show them how to work things.

[37:23] And so it's always gentle. It's gentle. So some people don't want it.

[37:27] Speaker C: Right.

[37:28] Speaker B: People are like, no, no, I know what I'm doing, I'm coming in. I've been to a gym before, but for people who don't know what they're doing or have gym anxiety or just want.

[37:37] Just want to have the moment where even I get to a machine. Not in my own gym, but if I go to another gym.

[37:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So off putting.

[37:46] Speaker B: Yeah.

[37:46] Speaker C: And they. And so they're short 30 minute sessions as well. So it's not too overwhelming.

[37:50] Speaker B: So. Yeah. So they come in and we look after them. So. Because the idea is if we help them with their gym journey, then they're going to stay longer.

[37:57] Speaker C: Yeah.

[37:58] Speaker B: Because the gym world is, you know, very in and out. People come, people go.

[38:02] Speaker C: Yeah.

[38:03] Speaker B: And we need that. You know, that business has some big overhead. So we have to meet a lot of bills.

[38:08] Speaker C: Yeah.

[38:08] Speaker B: So we need to retain our members.

[38:10] Speaker C: Yes.

[38:10] Speaker B: Keep them engaged.

[38:11] Speaker C: Yeah.

[38:12] Speaker B: So we could offer a free trial for a class. You know, often we'll say, do you want to jump in a class? Do you want to keep it going? I think I'm coming, you're coming.

[38:20] Get you there.

[38:21] Speaker C: But it's a thing, isn't it? People do feel anxious. Some people, especially if you've fallen out of the habit of doing exercises. Exercise. I'm quite feast or famine, you know, I can do a lot of something and then do something.

[38:32] So it's reintroducing things and engaging people where they're at.

[38:36] Speaker A: Yeah.

[38:36] Speaker C: Because I don't think I'm ever going to be in Chicago competing.

[38:39] Speaker B: Okay.

[38:40] Speaker A: Yeah.

[38:40] Speaker C: Internationally at High Rock. I like the idea of, especially as a woman in my 40s, getting fitter and, and, and starting to do. I've never done these strength training, for example, which I think is really important for our brains as well, isn't it?

[38:50] Speaker A: Yeah.

[38:53] Speaker C: So, yeah. I think I'm gonna come along and.

[38:55] Speaker A: Investigate your offer because there's so. The age range is so variable.

[39:00] Speaker B: Yeah.

[39:01] Speaker A: And it's so wide and it's every shape, size, whatever. There's no sense there that you feel self conscious.

[39:09] Speaker C: Right.

[39:10] Speaker A: There is absolutely not.

[39:11] Speaker B: You don't have to turn up there looking.

[39:13] Speaker A: No. It's not like a gym that's like you've got full makeup, which many.

[39:17] Speaker B: We haven't got a top to don't. I love Lululemon. It's a Great brand, but we're not Lululemon.

[39:23] Speaker C: Was that intentional decision on the behalf of the three of you to be very inclusive, or is it something that's organically evolved because of the personalities that you are?

[39:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I think also from our old site we used to have at the old club,

[39:34] it was.

[39:35] It had that kind of.

[39:38] Yeah, it just had that kind of real mix of people. Wasn't. Wasn't particularly young, but wasn't particularly old.

[39:45] And I think now in the new place,

[39:48] definitely the location of it, we have just got,

[39:50] you know, I would say our Target market is 50 plus.

[39:54] Speaker C: Right.

[39:55] Speaker B: We don't have the, you know, a big section of young. Yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy mummies,

[40:00] you know, with their Lululemons on.

[40:03] We do have a real cross section of people.

[40:07] But I think the thing that you get from my gym. Well, one thing, everybody says it's very clean because that's. Because I like a clean gym and I'm obsessive about,

[40:18] you know, I don't clean my own house to the standard that the gin is cleaned, you know,

[40:23] but, you know, but I'm always that honored,

[40:26] you know, my team, I'm like, can somebody go and hoof if that carpet? I don't like it. I walk past it once, I'm like, that's it.

[40:32] So, you know, we keep it clean, we look after it. It looks nice. And I always say, if it looks nice, people will treat it nice.

[40:39] Speaker A: Yeah.

[40:39] Speaker B: If there's rubbish on the floor or. Yeah, there's a load of dust balls, people just suddenly just don't respect it. Yeah, sure.

[40:47] Speaker C: Definitely.

[40:47] Speaker B: I keep everything nice and.

[40:49] Speaker A: And it's friendly.

[40:50] Speaker B: It's very friendly. Yeah.

[40:52] Speaker C: Fabulous.

[40:53] Speaker A: And that is something says hello to you.

[40:55] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.

[40:55] Speaker A: You know, the people behind the desk.

[40:57] Speaker B: Hello, Hello.

[40:58] That's something that we've all installed because me, Matt and Ben have all worked in that industry for such a long time. And it's,

[41:06] I think, when you don't get a hello and goodbye,

[41:09] you know? Yes, okay.

[41:11] Speaker C: Yeah.

[41:11] Speaker B: When we closed down at the last place we. We got basically got closed due to rack concrete. So we were closed within 45 minutes. And I had to join another gym because I had to.

[41:23] I was doing training for Hyrocks and I joined another gym. Won't mention it, but I was in shock because I was like,

[41:29] no, you said hello to me.

[41:30] Speaker A: Yes.

[41:30] Speaker C: And it just.

[41:31] Speaker B: I used to go hello to the receptionist and the sheep. Look at me going.

[41:35] Speaker A: And.

[41:35] Speaker C: Because there's.

[41:36] Speaker A: And because there's not, you know, we're lacking in community these days. These places of community.

[41:41] Speaker B: Yes.

[41:42] Speaker A: So important to. To speak and to be. You know what I mean?

[41:46] Speaker B: Yeah,

[41:48] yeah. We have socially, you know, we have Quiz night.

[41:51] We have always have a Christmas party. We're having a 30th of August like a.

[41:56] We'll have an open day where we'll invite people along to just do some,

[42:00] you know like we call it the high rate games. And don't ask me. This is Matt. This is Matt's thing. Right.

[42:05] Speaker A: I just run creativity.

[42:07] Speaker B: He will plan something he's kind of loosely told me and I'll pick up on it nearer the time and I need to make sure everything's in line. But so you know he's planning that day and we'll have like an open day, a fun day.

[42:20] We can get pizza van in and you know just kind of like everybody will be able to come and see the gym and um, you know, so we try and make it social as well.

[42:29] You don't have to be social.

[42:30] Speaker C: Yeah.

[42:31] Speaker B: But I mean our, our Christmas parties are legendary.

[42:35] Speaker C: Wonderful.

[42:36] Speaker B: For me basically being in the photo booth.

[42:40] I like photo booth.

[42:41] Photo booth.

[42:43] Why do we need that photo? I have so much fun.

[42:46] A booth.

[42:47] Like I love it.

[42:48] Speaker C: It sounds actually like, you know, neurodiverse or not. The three of you. It's really important that you're bringing people together.

[42:54] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.

[42:55] Speaker A: And that is what we all need.

[42:56] Speaker C: Regard where we are on that, on all of those spectrums as human beings, you know.

[43:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Feeling alive and bringing more joy and just feeling healthy, you know.

[43:07] Speaker C: Yeah.

[43:08] Speaker B: I mean when I in lockdown I had to teach on online to a camera.

[43:12] It was so destroying because you just didn't have any.

[43:15] Has to drag my daughter out of bed. So you come on, you need to come and do this class with me. So I've just had somebody else to just little feedback to feed off because yeah, I'll be thinking I'm teaching to a camera.

[43:27] I've got no idea if they're just all sitting there going,

[43:33] I'm dying here.

[43:34] Speaker C: Sense of connection.

[43:35] Speaker B: Yeah.

[43:36] Speaker C: It's connecting really, really hard.

[43:37] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think that that's what. Definitely not just fitness. Any community that you build, a business that you build,

[43:45] it's about the people that are in it.

[43:47] You know, you buy from people. I buy from people I like.

[43:50] Speaker A: Yes, exactly.

[43:51] Speaker B: You know, I, I will. You know, I've just gone to a new. We're going to a new booking system and it was between two businesses.

[43:58] One. One could have been slightly better but in the End. I went with the people that I felt had.

[44:04] I liked them better.

[44:05] Speaker C: Yeah.

[44:06] Speaker B: I liked their energy. I liked what they were telling me.

[44:08] Speaker A: Yes, so true, so true. And all this age of kind of AI and everything being automated. Yeah, that's so true. I will always go with the person.

[44:16] Speaker B: Yeah.

[44:17] Speaker A: I intuitively like.

[44:18] Speaker C: Yep.

[44:19] Speaker A: You know.

[44:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I want. I want to feel that. Feel that there.

[44:22] Speaker A: Yeah.

[44:23] Speaker B: I trust them.

[44:23] Speaker C: Yeah.

[44:24] Speaker B: I think that they're saying the right thing to me and I think, you.

[44:27] Speaker A: Know, they're being honest.

[44:28] Speaker B: Yeah, Being honest.

[44:29] Speaker C: Honesty so important.

[44:30] Speaker B: And I won't hold your feet to the fire if it's not right.

[44:34] Speaker A: And on that note. Oh, yeah.

[44:37] Speaker B: Oh, listen, it's been absolutely lovely.

[44:41] I'm going to podcast. They say. What's it about? No idea. Yes. So do you have one of my learners? You just said, come on the podcast.

[44:47] Speaker A: I'm like, okay, yeah, because I love you and I love what you've brought to my life and thank you for.

[44:52] Speaker B: Letting me keep coming.

[44:54] Speaker A: I will keep coming. I will.

[44:57] Speaker B: Otherwise, I. I just don't. Sometimes don't have. And when she's there, I'm like, oh, that's so nice.

[45:06] Speaker A: Feelings mutual.

[45:07] Speaker B: Although I do need you a little bit more at the front. Yeah.

[45:11] Speaker A: Sometimes doing that there. Yes.

[45:13] Speaker B: You need to be up next to me. I don't know why you don't stand next to.

[45:17] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's funny, isn't it? I won't go into that, but depends what side you're on, where the light is. It's funny how you've all got your place in a class.

[45:24] Everyone goes to their places.

[45:26] Funny old thing ever.

[45:27] Speaker B: I just, you know, I'm going to drag you up on this stand there because I need you today. I need you. I need you.

[45:34] Speaker A: Next time I'll stand on your right. Yeah, yeah, right. Listen, thank you.

[45:41] Speaker B: Thank you.

[45:41] Speaker A: And we'll put all of the details at the. The gym and insta and all of that on the podcast so people can find you.

[45:48] Speaker B: Fabulous.

[45:49] Speaker C: Do we just want to give out the website address now?

[45:51] Speaker A: Where.

[45:51] Speaker C: Where do people go?

[45:52] Speaker A: There you go.

[45:54] Speaker B: Well, it's www.hofitnessclub.co.uk thank you.

[45:57] Speaker C: I'm coming.

[46:00] Speaker B: As I said, I'll hold your feet to the fire and you will be coming. Guess what? I know. I know where you live.

[46:05] Speaker C: Yes, you do. So thanks so much, Lucas.

[46:08] Speaker B: Thanks to you. I know what your names now. Yeah, you do. Thank you so much. See you.

[46:13] Speaker A: See you all soon.

[46:18] Thank you for being here.

[46:20] Thank you for listening to us.

[46:22] And remember our intention here is to always just be unapologetically ourselves.

[46:31] Thank you. See you next time.

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